Now 813 U.S. GI's, countless Iraqis dead

The death count keeps rising. Here is the latest list of tragedy from Iraq from Peace, jamie

05/31/04 iribnews: Gunmen kill senior Iraqi official
Gunmen shot and killed a senior official of a main Sunni Islamic party as he was driving home late on Sunday, the deputy head of the party said on Monday.

05/31/04 AP: Car bomb kills two, injures more than 20 in Baghdad
A car bomb exploded on Monday near the headquarters of the U.S.-run occupation authority in Baghdad, killing at least two people injuring more than 20. It was unclear if the bomb was a suicide attack

05/31/04 CJTF: Two Task Force 1st AD Soldiers Die in Separate Engagements
One Soldier was killed when his patrol was ambushed with small arms fire and the other was killed when a rocket-propelled grenade struck his tank during a patrol.

05/31/04 Reuters: Two U.S. Soldiers Killed in Cleric's Stronghold
Insurgents have killed two U.S. soldiers in the Iraqi city of Kufa, where U.S.-led forces have been fighting the militia of rebel Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, the U.S. military said on Monday

05/31/04 AP: Two Killed in Attack on Convoy in Baghdad
Assailants ambushed a convoy of Britons on a northern Baghdad highway on Sunday, killing one Iraqi security guard and a bystander, officials and witnesses said.

05/31/04 CJTF: 1st AD Soldier Killed, Two Others Wounded in IED Attack
Three Task Force 1st Armored Division Soldiers were wounded at about 6:40 p.m. May 30 when their vehicle struck an improvised explosive device south of Soldier died from wounds sustained in the attack.

05/30/04 AP: Major Fighting Reported In Kufa, Najaf
Assailants ambushed a convoy of Westerners on Sunday on a northern Baghdad highway, killing at least two people and possibly abducting others, police and witnesses said. U.S. soldiers came under fire ...

05/30/04 Reuters: Gunmen Kill 2 Foreigners, Seize 3 in Baghdad
Gunmen attacked three civilian vehicles carrying foreigners in northwest Baghdad Sunday, killing two Westerners and seizing three others, witnesses and police at the scene said

05/30/04 AP: Westerner Killed in Baghdad Attack on Three SUVs
Three sport utility vehicles were attacked Sunday evening in the Iraqi capital, and the body of at least one Westerner could be seen in the flaming wreckage.

05/30/04 Novinite: Bulgarians Nab Four Iraq Rebels
Bulgaria's Karbala troops have seized four Iraqis who tried to sack an arms depot

05/30/04 Reuters: Foreigners Attacked in Baghdad, Some Killed
Gunmen opened fire on two civilian vehicles carrying foreigners in western Baghdad on Sunday and police at the scene said some people had been killed.

05/30/04 AP: Soldier Wounded In Mosul
One soldier also was slightly wounded Saturday when a roadside bomb exploded near a U.S. convoy in the northern city of Mosul, the U.S. military said.

05/30/04 AP: U.S. Soldiers Clash With Gunmen in Najaf
U.S. soldiers clashed with Shiite gunmen in this holy city on Sunday, a day after Najaf's governor accused radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ...

05/30/04 Reuters: Six Soldiers Wounded by Car Bomb
six soldiers have been wounded in a car bomb attack at a coalition base east of Talafar, the name of the American military base in the northern city of Mosul.

05/30/04 AP: Two blasts hit center of Baghdad
Two explosions were heard near the U.S.-led coalition headquarters in central Baghdad on Saturday, witnesses said.

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always look hard at numbers

marco 31.May.2004 14:25

If the official number is 813 then the truth is probably closer to:


813 x 3 and then / 2 = 1219.5

The military has been recording dead, injured, damaged property etc.,
by what Public Affairs Division always called the 2332 rule for a
very long time.

Friendly? You multiply by 2/3's
Enemy? Multiply by 3/2's.

Easy for an officer to do in his/her head, and if you do it in both
directions and the enemy doesn't do it, then you've inflated your
"winningness" by 2 almost.

You can tell yourself, your troops, the press that you are winning
a war when you are in reality getting the shit kicked out of you.

Happy fucking memorial day.

I'll bet the uncounted dead are really pleased with the US Government
right about now.


ps: was it Rumsfeld on the record for saying 500-600 when they were holding
to 7-something? Guess why? Pragmatically speaking? Math deficient.

Iraqi deaths

a 04.Jun.2004 19:44

The peace campaigners denounce the western media, which rarely gives attention to the thousands of Iraqi civilian victims. According to a report from Medact, UK affiliate of IPPNW (International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War), between 7,800-9,600 Iraqi civilians have already been killed since the start of the war in March 2003. The organisation also gives a number for the total of deaths (both citizens and Iraqi soldiers) of between 21,700 and 55,000 for the first six months of the war (1). According to Iraq Body Count there are already between 9187 en 11.046 civilian victims (2). According to the Associated Press news agency, in the month of April 2004 alone 1,200 Iraqi people were killed (3). On May 27 2004, the U.S. counted 805 of its troops amongst the victims of the war.